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whereland
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Ttc 12+ months

Postby whereland » Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:51 pm

Is anyone else in the same boat? Ttc 15 months now. All tests done, all fine. Feel so lost and lonely in this journey at times. Don't know what to do anymore. If one more person tells me to relax I'll crack up!!

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Re: Ttc 12+ months

Postby Blueeyes79 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:47 am

Hi Whereland,

I am sorry that you have been trying for 15 months and you feel so lonely. Fertility journey's can be a lonely place, everyone's experience is uniquely different so I will tell you my case briefly, but we should all unite for our common goal.. of wanting a much longed for baby! and I hope and pray you get there soon xxx

I have been in your position in that I have been trying for a second baby for almost 2.5 years with no BFP so I know how heartbreaking this is, how head wrecking this is and how you start loose all faith and sense that things will actually work out. & I hear you on just relax!!! it drives me absolutely bonkers!!!

But sometimes there are complicated reasons as to why things are not working and you / I need medical assistance. For instance, On paper everything for us is in working order, I have two tubes, two ovaries, I ovulate every single month I get regular periods and so on but my story is a very complicated one.

Medically I have these wrong with just me : short lutueal phase (meaning some months my cycle is just 23 days long) on those months the lining of my womb would not be able to maintain a pregnancy and as a result this also effect my hormones / so I will need progesterone support.
I have thick blood, again thinner blood is needed to hold onto a pregnancy, so I will need to inject myself with blood thinners and take 75mg of asprin daily.
I have two thyroid issues, all known to effect fertility, this was by chance discovered.
High NK killer cells, which means my immune system gets confused and will think a baby is the flu and as a result get rid of it.
Endometriosis newly diagnosed and this has been known to make women infertile, and effect other internal organs and also the quality of the eggs.

I can not think of much more at the minute but my point to the latest JUST RELAX was that even if I stood on my head and floated high up in meditation...I need medical help.... and all the above can be treated as such.

We have one miracle, his name is Josh he is beautiful inside and out and we feel like everyone else we deserve a sibling for Josh, unfortunately there is a thing out there where people think I should be very happy with the one.. but the girl down the road can have 6 and no one cares because she naturally got pregnant.

It turns out we are really great parents, Josh is our number one priority and now at age 3 he is looking around and would like someone to play with... and so we are starting IVF in the coming few weeks with Sims and I could not be more delighted and at ease with going for our next step... in fact I cannot wait!!!

The consultant said all my problems are fixable and better that they have complete control over my body... I feel really good about that it is like a weight has been lifted..

My advise is go straight to a fertility specialist if you have already then maybe a more specialist round of testing might be needed, I do believe if you haven't been getting pregnant in 15 months, there could be something wrong... and it could be a tiny thing but you could need help with.

I know I have been getting pregnant and loosing them over the last 2.5 years, but because of the medication I was taking I couldn't prove that for certain as my problem is I need to test really early and I would still have HCG in my system from the shots I was taking while attending Napro clinic, some months I would go onto day 30 or day 31 so IVF is right now for us.

PM me anytime.

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Postby whereland » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:15 am

Thank you so much for your reply, I really appreciate it.
I think part of me just wants someone to say yes it seems like something is wrong after 15 months with no luck- some acknowledgement! I have been to a fertility specialist who did a scan to look at my ovaries, was happy with the amount of follicles in each, day 3 and day 21 bloods were fine, thyroid is normal, went under general anaesthetic for a lap and dye and all is fine, semen analysis results were good. So we've just been left to it with no explanation. My GP just nods sympathetically and tells me to relax. Makes me feel like maybe I'm overreacting but I don't think I am!
How did you find out about those medical issues you have? I feel like there must be something underlying with me too but not sure where to go next. Back to the fertility clinic? I'm not sure what other tests the can perform that they haven't already done.
I've started acupuncture so I'll see how that goes.
Again thanks for replying, it is quite a lonely journey. I don't talk to my sisters or friends about it so we also get the lovely "any news..." comments regularly. And comments about how lucky we are to head off on holidays have lie ins etc when I'd give it all up in a heartbeat to have a baby. Anyway there's my self indulgent moan for the day!

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Postby galwaygirl2010 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:35 am

I would recommend going to see a specialist soon also and not to waste any more time. My story is we have a DD already - I had 2 misses before I had her and got pregnant within 2 months each time we tried. This time round with no 2, we've had no joy after 13 months so Im back seeing my consultant I saw for the repeat mcs. We've had all the tests done and no issues were found so im on clomid to boost the number of eggs released each month to increase the chances of getting an egg.

Blueeyes - im so glad you are moving on to IVF - hopefully you'll get your BFP soon :babydust: A girl in my mothers / baby group had 8 mcs due to the NK Killer cells issue and has since had 2 kids in 2 years.

whereland
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Postby whereland » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:25 pm

Thanks for another reply, I've already been to a fertility specialist and to be honest wasn't all that impressed with their approach.. Once all tests were clear I was told "well you can have IUI if you want". I was a bit taken aback, I sort of expected that that would be further down the road. I want to try my best to conceive naturally first, and then I'll definitely be open to assistance if needed.
It just doesn't seem to make sense for them to say all seems to be working as it should be you can go ahead with this expensive treatment.. I just feel there should be something in between.
I wonder do I need to go back to fertility consultant to ask about looking for other issues like you have mentioned? Or gp?
Thanks so much for responding and best of luck to you both

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Postby galwaygirl2010 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:09 pm

Im not sure where in the country you are. But my consultant is in Dublin and I find him great. Very sympathetic. He saw me after 2 mcs when most places wait until you have had 3 mcs before they considering seeing you. We travel from Galway to see him as I find him great.

His name is Dr Kent Ayres and I got his name from many ladies here who had seen him in the past. He specialises in fertility issues and is from New Zealand so is very unlike any other doctor / consultant Ive dealt with :wv

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Blueeyes79
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Postby Blueeyes79 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:29 am

Hey whereland,


No problem, I can see why your situation seems confusing, mine did for many years as well, my body is an unusual one so at two other stages earlier on my thyroid also looked like it was normal, but then by chance on a routine blood test it was 8 times over active, I was very hyper, talking fast, full of anxiety and it was an over active thyroid, so look up symptoms of over active and under active and if you ever feel like those then go straight for another blood test, also get the antibody test for the thyroid as this is important.

Autoimmune testing might be worth a go and maybe a more details DNA fragmentation on your partners sperm, also I would suggest getting another ovulation , follicle tracking done, again everything looked normal on paper for me and even the consultants where conflicting in their advise to me.. but it looked like I ovulate but not perfectly, so my bloods show up as though I do.... they couldn't figure out if I had partially ovulated and in that case you would need a trigger shot, to guarantee ovulation and like what the girl said, clomid or letrozole would be what I would ask for next, that is if you don't want to go to all the other expense.

Letrozole for me makes me feel unwell, but I guess whatever works, it will give you a better chance. Recently a girl who has similar history to mine got pregnant with taking 9 letrozole, but again a consultant would advise you on that as I'm not a doctor... but am happy to help anyone.

Napro might be worth giving a chance, you could be only with them a short amount of time, for me I'm heading towards 40 so need to move to IVF.

Basically another thing you could do and one Napro will advise is cut out wheat & Dairy, up your vitamin dosages, Vit D, Omega 3, Vit B for women and men. Cut down on drink, and my tip buy yourself a little fertility bracelet. You can buy ones on Etsy - I have so many issues the girl had to Tailor make one for me, all in all under €40.00 and I am looking forward to getting it. I lost my much loved one which I feel contributed to our Miracle Josh xxx

https://www.etsy.com/ie/shop/TheFertileGarden

& Thanks Galwaygirl 2010 xxx

Best of luck xx
Blueeyes

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Postby whereland » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:30 pm

Very interesting reading, thank you. I feel like I must have some of those underlying issues you've described. I have a feeling my GP thinks I'm a bit mad already as I had a bit of a rant last time I was with her so not sure how she'd take to me asking for clomid etc. Wonder if I should fork out the €200 for another consultant appointment and ask them about that seeing as they would probably have more knowledge on them than the GP.

I had a blood test to look at my thyroid function last wk, still waiting on the results. I'm not sure how much extra info I'll get other than "they're fine".

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply to me. My best friend has just told me she's pregnant too- the mixture of happiness for her and jealousy is awful, I don't want to be jealous of my friends

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Postby Blueeyes79 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:58 pm

Hey whereland,

No problem at all, I am happy to help!

I am sorry to hear you just heard the news of your friends pregancy, it is a very hard thing to hear. Extra tlc for you over the next few days xxx

Its a mind field,multi feelings off all sorts, try not to be hard on yourself.. Its not fair it just isnt. Some people have very easy lives all together, all I can say is when you get your little baby you will feel a little better and appreciate everything more x

Ask for a print out of your thyroid and bring it with you for that last appointment, that is one big thing that the specialists are good for! Letrozold or clomid they are actually cheap... I remember it was around 15 euro per month! So that is a good plan!

Let us know how it goes xxx

I have had more than a few nights, crying drinking red wine and feeling sorry for myself, not often, but they were needed once in a while.

Also what helped me was to treat myself to something small but that maybe mothers wohldnt, silly I know, but beautician things that take time.. A few hrs of relaxation.. It helps.


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Re: Ttc 12+ months

Postby Sunspeckle » Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:28 pm

Hi Whereland

Subfertility can be a lonely road for sure. Especially when all around you are falling pg. It can seem so unfair. When I had those feelings I always used to remind myself that everyone's journey is different!

I used to keep my fertility issues to myself but I can honestly say that since I've been more open about things its really helped me and if others are hoping and praying for you I believe that makes a big difference.

I'm not sure who your doc is, but "normal" in-range results doesnt mean that they are normal for "fertility". For example, My thyroid was 3.8 and in range but it needs to be <2 for fertility.

I would agree that diet plays a massive part in fertility if you have food intolerance. Food intolerances cause inflammation in the body and that basically tells the body "I'm under attack...i cant get pregnant now!" I recommend the York blood test. I found out that I have a dairy and egg intolerance

I also found out that I had pre-adrenal fatigue so I started taking DHEA supplements. This also really improves egg quality.

I'd recommend giving NAPRO a go.

best of luck
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