When do you take off your train/veil?

Hiya, I'm wearing a long-ish train and veil on the day. The train is removeable - when do you take it off, is it before the first dance or after?

I think its up to yourself really - no set rules but I'm taking mine off after the first dance - just for the photo's etc

im taking mine off after the first dance as well thats if it doesnt annoy me before then

I'll probably take the veil off and bustle up the dress after the first dance - but as august05 said, it may be bug me before I get to that stage!! I'll gauge it on the day and see how I feel but there's no set rules.

thanks a mil, I think I'll have to see how easy it is to move around in like you've said