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Mrs. lou-beag Posts: 193
[quote]I think it is the right choice to make if you are in the position to do it. I think people whose only reason not to raise their own children at home purely because of their careers are very selfish. Children deserve to come first, not second. Going out to earn money may be putting your children first if you need to do it to survive. If you are fortunate enough not to have to have to do that to survive then putting them first is trading in your career for your time. Mistified, I couldn’t agree more and you summed up exactly what I wanted to say. Unfortunately and you touched on this yourself, so many people return to work out of necessity, to provide for their child and to give them every chance in life. However, I do agree that anyone in a position to be able to survive on one partners wage, would be very selfish in choosing to return to work, if there only reason for doing so was to further their career.
SusanD Posts: 110
Dcd, if MM is what they call 'Mentalmums' I actually don't post there, have far too much fun on here :evil: Where would I get the time???? Are you inviting me over though???
Princess Cinders Posts: 11475
[quote:27ynitm9]Miss hopeful (I'd do more than hope if I were you), [/quote:27ynitm9] :?
Baby Tigger Posts: 3394
Thanks for that DCD :lol: Well bully for you Susan. I have to say that I have worked in the past with a lot of condescending, patronising self righteous conceited ladies but I have never met anyone like you. You really are a piece of work. Just one question that I have for you - do you always believe everything that the 'experts' say or is it only the ones that agree with you? I mean there have been a lot of valid points from people on this post who I would consider to be experts because they live in the real world and call it like it is but you seem to be happy to shoot them down. From my experience it's better to believe and listen to people that have lived through an experience rather than what some of these so-called experts and professors say. I mean half of them are bloody mad anyway. Actually I think that I have just answered my own question there- -you believe the experts cos you're as mad as them you raving lunatic. What more can I say. You really got my back up on this one. Tell me what's it like living in your ivory tower inyour perfect world with your perfect hsband and your perfect daughter cos sweetie here in the real world it's a struggle but then you wouldn't know a thing about that would you?
Dcd Posts: 1471
Well that clears that one up! I thought you said you were on Magicmum before. I wouldn't like to be rude, but out of 172 women polled(in a poll not UP the poll!!!) 43% were Working mums and 36% were SAHMs not including the other catagories.. so I doubt you'd have too many hard line supporters over there either!
SusanD Posts: 110
Cocoa, in all seriousness... the volume of evidence is soooo one sided on this argument that there is no argument if you know what I mean. If there was even ONE piece of evidence that said that childcare was Better than being in the home for the baby, I would be open to hear it. I am actually very open on all topics, but this one - this is too serious, has such a bearing on future generations. I'm interested though, Mystified and Lou-beag have both made statements similar to mine, why doesn't anyone argue the toss with them???? Saying that people who put careers ahead of their children are selfish??? Jeez, when I said that I got my head bitten off!!!! My life isn't perfect, but its a damn close to it as I can make it and every struggle is worth it. She is worth it.
Jane 06 Posts: 114
Quote"Miss hopeful (I'd do more than hope if I were you), obviously it would depend on the issue brought up by the teacher. If it was a behavioural problem, I'd probably have to get her assessed by a specialist... I'd feel sad for your children if you would take the word of a teacher that your child may have something like Autism for example. " OH MY GOD, she is totally on another planet ............ I've never heard such bull in my entire life :? :? :? . I am off home now and will chuckle to myself every time I think of this ................ :lol: :lol: :lol:
Princess Cinders Posts: 11475
[quote:2rrpvo7g]Cocoa, in all seriousness... the volume of evidence is soooo one sided on this argument that there is no argument if you know what I mean. If there was even ONE piece of evidence that said that childcare was Better than being in the home for the baby, I would be open to hear it. I am actually very open on all topics, but this one - this is too serious, has such a bearing on future generations. I'm interested though, Mystified and Lou-beag have both made statements similar to mine, why doesn't anyone argue the toss with them???? Saying that people who put careers ahead of their children are selfish??? Jeez, when I said that I got my head bitten off!!!! My life isn't perfect, but its a damn close to it as I can make it and every struggle is worth it. She is worth it.[/quote:2rrpvo7g] I think the reason nobody is arguing the toss with them is the fact that they dont put their points across the way you do. The way you are putting it across is that there is only one way to do things and that is yours. Stop criticising mothers who go out to work, what works for you and other SAHM doesnt work for everyone
Baby Tigger Posts: 3394
I'm not saying that you're daughter isn't worth it. i am sure she is just like any other child is worth making sacrifices for. however putting a child in a creche is also a sacrifice for the mother whose heart is breaking every morning because she has to do it and go to work in order to make ends meet aand be able to provide a better life for her child. In all seriousness are you surprised that you nearly got your head bitten off for saying that people put their careers ahead of their children. They are not. they like you are trying tto provide a better future for their child. Also the reason that you were attacked was because you came on all "na-na-nana-na" and "I'm better than you" and "I'm right and the rest of you are wrong". You worded what you were trying to say totally the wrong way and you got people's backs up. Maybe the next time that you want to post you might consider other people's feelings. I mean there are women on here who could be in tears every morning leaving their children into creches but they have no alternative. That's all I'm saying. I am trying to be the voice of reason hee but Isomehow think that I am wasting my time. Have a good weekend everyone.
SusanD Posts: 110
Jane I shudder at the type of background checks you put your creches through if you wouldn't get a second opinion on something as serious as your childs health... Jane: Is this a good creche?? Crecheworker: Yes Jane: Oh great, put my childs name down.... :roll: Miss Hopeful, so you don't disagree that women who go out to work and put their careers ahead of their children are selfish???? One would think if you don't agree, you'd tell them now... I'm only thinking about what works for the baby and it works for the baby everytime.